Thank You.

pALEPHx wrote:

Was that the baby with the bathwater I just heard hitting the razorwire fence around what passes for  Solomonic judgment around here?

Whine, baby, whine.

Need a new banner czar, Choad?

...I'll give it a shot if choad's willing to entrust me with it.  I'd be nice, 'cause there are few things I hate more than asshole mods.  What's the job entail?

pALEPHx wrote:

choad wrote:

...any more mischief.

While I'd love for you to delineate the valid points WCL has made, outside of spewing venom from every available orifice, I'd like to remind you that all this was started because I deleted a banner of his that made fun of Ptah. I know how much we enjoy kicking members when they're down around here, but a banner devoted to it was simply too much. WCL then went and deleted my banners out of spite. Yet I get the same treatment despite months of managing the banners to no advantage of my own. I don't even LIKE Ptah (not that he cares, or probably prefers it that way).

It's not like he and I have anything to "sort." This is bullshit, fake drama and should be reversed immediately. If WCL doesn't know better than to stay away from the banner management page, then perhaps his job description was written as well as mine was; i.e., nonexistent. Simply because he could, he did. Some of the inmates running this asylum need better leadership. As I've said often about the glory of anarchy, it can only exist if there's someone around to enforce it, or else order takes over again, as it does in nearly all systems.

If you don't want my "order" doing banners anymore, then I expect an adult reaction and communication about it, not reduction to the absurd. I keep those things in rotation because people vote on them, and I make them because I want to be here. WCL makes one banner, it tanks, and suddenly there's a meltdown of all order? Get a grip, Choad.

I'm terribly disappointed in you both; just shut-up and get on with it.

square wrote:

pALEPHx wrote:

Yet I get the same treatment[...]

Yeah, I don't understand why either.

Because when you have OMG INTARNET DRAMA, all participating parties are equally guilty.

pALEPHx wrote:

choad wrote:

...any more mischief.

While I'd love for you to delineate the valid points WCL has made, outside of spewing venom from every available orifice, I'd like to remind you that all this was started because I deleted a banner of his that made fun of Ptah. I know how much we enjoy kicking members when they're down around here, but a banner devoted to it was simply too much. WCL then went and deleted my banners out of spite. Yet I get the same treatment despite months of managing the banners to no advantage of my own. I don't even LIKE Ptah (not that he cares, or probably prefers it that way).

It's not like he and I have anything to "sort." This is bullshit, fake drama and should be reversed immediately. If WCL doesn't know better than to stay away from the banner management page, then perhaps his job description was written as well as mine was; i.e., nonexistent. Simply because he could, he did. Some of the inmates running this asylum need better leadership. As I've said often about the glory of anarchy, it can only exist if there's someone around to enforce it, or else order takes over again, as it does in nearly all systems.

If you don't want my "order" doing banners anymore, then I expect an adult reaction and communication about it, not reduction to the absurd. I keep those things in rotation because people vote on them, and I make them because I want to be here. WCL makes one banner, it tanks, and suddenly there's a meltdown of all order? Get a grip, Choad.

I have to say, as much as I hate getting involved in drama, I gotta side with Pale on this one.  Following people around and insulting them is no big deal to me, but in my opinion the minute it boiled over to abusing the banner system to spite someone over a dispute you lose all claim to being an injured party, and other than disagreeing vehemently, I can't see how Pale has done anything to warrant revoking admin privileges, especially since the quality of the banners has been much more consistent since he started volunteering as de facto moderator.

To finish the Solomon analogy, don't forget that the only reason people considered him wise is because in the end he didn't actually cut the baby in half.

Emmeran wrote:

...  shut-up and get on with it.

A little nudge here, a small push there.

What do you know; a happy ending.

If you guys want to live with pENIx's passive aggressive fag-snits go right ahead. I don't hate him and I don't really care, but I do think that his deletion of my banner was arbitrary, given that it was not the first banner of its kind. Frankly, this is not a knitting circle; there is still an element of Cruel(ty) here, or I'm outta here for more hostile climes. I'm bored of this argument too - and I'm definitely bored of pENIx. Frankly, JLP would make a great banner czar.

George Orr wrote:

WilberCuntLicker wrote:

If you guys want to live with pENIx's passive aggressive fag-snits go right ahead.

We do, without (much) complaint.

Perhaps your use of the word "we" over-emphasizes your argument. Invisible armies make a great bluff, but a lousy rhetorical tool. Change is good. Others have indicated a desire to look after the banners. Perhaps the job should rotate, to avoid situations in which one person assumes too much ownership, or feels it permissible to make decisions based on personal taste or snittish passive aggression.

Taint wrote:

WilberCuntLicker wrote:

George Orr wrote:

We do, without (much) complaint.

Perhaps your use of the word "we" over-emphasizes your argument. Invisible armies make a great bluff, but a lousy rhetorical tool. Change is good. Others have indicated a desire to look after the banners. Perhaps the job should rotate, to avoid situations in which one person assumes too much ownership, or feels it permissible to make decisions based on personal taste or snittish passive aggression.

Pale's done a good job with with the banners. The voting has been helpful in weeding out lesser efforts, of which several of mine can be categorized. They're just banners - I'm not about to get too attached to them. I've been surprised often enough by the return of banners I made about which I had forgotten completely.

Have I ever said pENIx did a bad job with the banners?
No.
That is not the point.

tojo2000 wrote:

WilberCuntLicker wrote:

George Orr wrote:

We do, without (much) complaint.

Perhaps your use of the word "we" over-emphasizes your argument. Invisible armies make a great bluff, but a lousy rhetorical tool. Change is good. Others have indicated a desire to look after the banners. Perhaps the job should rotate, to avoid situations in which one person assumes too much ownership, or feels it permissible to make decisions based on personal taste or snittish passive aggression.

True, but this is not about who monitors the banners.  This is about whether you can take a dispute you have about a banner and make it into a personal war.  Shut up and take your medicine, and when the dust has settled, bring up any issues you have outside of the context of your current hissy fit. 

There was a boy once who was born without a body.   He was teased mercilessly by his fellow students.  Every day they would make fun of him, and every night he would pray to God to give him a body.  One morning he woke up with a body as a reward for his piousness.  He was so excited that he ran down the street shouting at the top of his lungs, "I have a body!  I have a body!".  Unfortunately along this same road was travelling a semi truck.  18 wheels each took a piece of his corpse as he was ground to bloody pieces.

The moral of this story?

Stop.  Stop while you're a head.

Did you write that little parable all by yourself?

tojo2000 wrote:

Stop.  Stop while you're a head.

Posts rarely make me laugh out loud, but I didn't see this one coming.

Wilber and Pale:  each of you need to get down on one knee, face each other, and sing along with this video.

Fnord, Sofie... omigod. That's so beautiful.

oh hai, is this the internets?!?  zomg!