I've heard about the "Yoo Memo,"  but had not seen so much detail.

It does make the mind ache.

I'm still hoping that before I die, I'll get to see a bunch of these people hanged for treason.

MSG Tripps wrote:

George Orr wrote:

hanged for treason

None of the ones you want hung are going to get close.

Yeah, I know...But I can dream.

Maybe one or two of 'em will take the honorable way out and eat a barrel.  [edit] And then I can look at the pictures on ogrish.

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It repeats an assertion in another controversial Yoo memo that an interrogation tactic cannot be considered torture unless it would result in "death, organ failure or serious impairment of bodily functions."

That's just counterproductive, as any chink would know...

Yoo, who is now a law professor at the University of California at Berkeley, also uses footnotes to effectively dismiss the Fourth and Fifth amendments to the Constitution, arguing that protections against unreasonable search and seizure and guarantees of due process either do not apply or are irrelevant in a time of war. He frequently cites his previous legal opinions to bolster his case.

Berkeley, makes sense....

choad wrote:

just reward

There is/are no "just reward"(s).  Who the fuck are you trying to fool?

MSG Tripps wrote:

choad wrote:

just reward

There is/are no "just reward"(s).  Who the fuck are you trying to fool?

Well, there could be.  Hear me out:  a just punishment for those who give the big "f-u" to the Constitution, the Geneva Conventions, and all-around human decency:

Find an empty spot in one of the square states where no one lives.

Dig out a cubical pit, 100 feet on a side.  Line it 3 feet thick with concrete and rebar.

Put a cover over it.  In the middle of the cover, a heavy blast-proof door.

After conviction and rejection of 3 appeals, lu53r is to be taken to The Pit and pushed in.  Then ignored.  The first few should die fairly quickly, forming a limited food supply for those who follow.

A just punishment, with minimal upkeep requirements.  And it's technically not the death penalty, so even pantywaists like Roman Catholics and jesuslovespegging should be able to support it.

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I dream that 2 of these are set up on the Mall in Washington... I dream that they start in the Judiciary Bringing in Yoo, Asscroft, Gonzalez etc., then work their way through the Pentagon, CIA, FBI ad nauseum, then meander through both houses, then the Supreme Court, finalizing with the Executive Branch.   Both Parties.  No Mercy.

Dmtdust wrote:

I dream that 2 of these are set up on the Mall in Washington... I dream that they start in the Judiciary Bringing in Yoo, Asscroft, Gonzalez etc., then work their way through the Pentagon, CIA, FBI ad nauseum, then meander through both houses, then the Supreme Court, finalizing with the Executive Branch.   Both Parties.  No Mercy.

Wow.  That's such a beautiful dream. /sniffle

I'll bring my drill with a grinding wheel to keep the blades sharp.  Wouldn't want the party to slow down.

You know, sadly, I give in to the same fantasies. I keep hoping the Dems will grow some balls and open investigations into all the shit Bush and his cronies have pulled, and I have this ongoing fantasy of someone being pissed off enough to take a number of them out.

I'm furious and frustrated and, pretty much, resigned. Which, of course, just plays into their hands.

As Dhal said: Shit.

Dmtdust wrote:

You know, there are some on line plans for The Maiden... BTW... can we Waterboard Gonzalez and Crew first?

Concessions??  Hell Yeah!

I'll run the henna titty tattoos booth.

it's technically not the death penalty

How could they object to their own rationale, after all?  It's their only contribution to the nation they profess to love so very much.

You could even skip the waterboarding (though I'd rather not).  I'd be satisfied to see all of them subjected to stress positions and sleep deprivation, starting with Rumsfeld and Cheney, please.

Tojo wrote:

...but by virtue of the Magic President theory he just waves his wand, and viola!

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tojo2000 wrote:

Exactly.  Fiddling while your country burns is so old-school.

Even Shrub knows that.  He was playing his guitar while New Orleans was drowning.

Rense.  Where Word 97 is still a good tool for making web pages.

felch wrote:

I hate web browsers. They let cretins get online. Tim Berners Lee should be crucified. He's turned an idyllic, eclectic and civilised playground into an open sewer for the masses where people who have nothing to say can whine about how you build your HTML.

Felch

To which evil social system does the "Defining Characteristic" belong where the ellite restrict access to the means of comminication and free expression? Jealously gurding control of the mass media for only those who meet their approval?

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felch wrote:

tojo2000 wrote:

Rense.  Where Word 97 is still a good tool for making web pages.

OK, try here you nitpicking fuck. Take your pick from the links. I guess you must be a Web 2.0 guru.

I hate web browsers. They let cretins get online. Tim Berners Lee should be crucified. He's turned an idyllic, eclectic and civilised playground into an open sewer for the masses where people who have nothing to say can whine about how you build your HTML.

Felch

Oh, relax, for God's sake. 

P.S.  For the record, I think anyone who uses the phrase "Web 2.0" should be defenestrated, post-haste.

It's also the best way to teach poodles how to fly.

"...protections against unreasonable search and seizure and guarantees of due process either do not apply or are irrelevant in a time of war. "

1984 arrives roughly 20 years late.

I don’t know of any military operations being carried out today.

Delusional fuck...