#1 2013-03-16 21:25:00
Fucking money pit, just lock them up for life and avoid the automatic appeals, I'm sick of wasting money just to off these losers - let nature deal with it.
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#2 2013-03-16 22:41:29
Milke had always maintained her innocence. The Arizona court that convicted her in 1990 had relied solely on the testimony of a detective, who claimed she had confessed to the crime. No written or recorded evidence of the supposed confession has ever been produced and it has since emerged that the individual in question had a track record of lying under oath, as well as a history of other misconduct.
Sounds like she got railroaded to me. Fuck Arizona!
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#3 2013-03-16 22:43:56
Baywolfe wrote:
Milke had always maintained her innocence. The Arizona court that convicted her in 1990 had relied solely on the testimony of a detective, who claimed she had confessed to the crime. No written or recorded evidence of the supposed confession has ever been produced and it has since emerged that the individual in question had a track record of lying under oath, as well as a history of other misconduct.
Sounds like she got railroaded to me. Fuck Arizona!
Just another reason to get rid of the Death Penalty, there ain't no going back if they aren't guilty; I'm tired of my hard earned tax dollars being wasted on this shit.
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#4 2013-03-17 08:38:26
And what about the lifers that continuously appeal their sentences? Are those appeals cheaper than death penalty appeals? Seriously, I don't understand the logic behind "cheaper to lock them up for life". Now you can either blow up and tell me how stupid anyone who disagrees with you is or you can explain your standpoint.
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#5 2013-03-17 08:58:16
gravely wrote:
And what about the lifers that continuously appeal their sentences? Are those appeals cheaper than death penalty appeals? Seriously, I don't understand the logic behind "cheaper to lock them up for life". Now you can either blow up and tell me how stupid anyone who disagrees with you is or you can explain your standpoint.
Lifers can appeal but we don't have to pay for it they are responsible for that cost, however condemned inmates get automatic appeals on our dollar and those appeals go on for years. Frankly I don't give a fuck if we kill them or not as it changes my life not one bit but the onus of assuring that we are not executing an innocent man is highly expensive. Also you must consider that Death Row inmates get special treatment such as private cells, extra guards, etc.; this shit adds up. In California they estimate we could save $100m per year by getting rid of the death sentence, hell if we only save 25% of that it's still a good deal. My stance is really about cost vs. revenge - in my opinion let the fuckers rot in general population.
And I think we can all agree that we don't want to accidentally execute an innocent person as that person could be us in the future.
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#6 2013-03-17 09:18:54
Thank You for your explanation. I don't know enough about the whole process to know what changes would work. There is no perfect solution.
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#7 2013-03-17 19:38:12
Yes, death row inmates are shielded from some of the worst aspects of prison life, such as beatings, shivings, gang rape, the stench of thousands of unwashed armpits, frequent contact with insane/stupid/vicious people, the outrageous noise level, massive amounts of second hand smoke, and a host of other indignities such as taking a shit in front of hundreds of onlookers. This is why capitol punishment must be abolished; it's far more humane than a life sentence in general population!
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#8 2013-03-18 13:24:34
Justice would be better served if death sentences were carried out in a timely manner. This would eliminate the argument about relative costs and we could simply debate the efficacy of killing killers. I find that most people who argue the expense of maintaining death row really oppose the death penalty for other reasons. They use the expense argument because they believe it will appeal to conservative death penalty advocates.
I also don't buy the notion that living on death row is a relative luxury compared to general population. Imagine being segregated from humanity for decades and waking every morning knowing that you are eventually going to die in this place.
To help ensure that only the guilty are convicted, I would propose that withholding exculpatory evidence in a murder trial by a prosecutor should carry a very heavy penalty. Life in prison for allowing someone to be falsely sentenced to death row would seem appropriate.
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