#1 2009-11-30 23:11:28
How come no one has mentioned this horror? Gross, just gross.
http://www.sltrib.com/ci_13879115?IADID … sltrib.com
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#2 2009-11-30 23:21:05
"Nutty Putty Cave"? I hope they change the name.
The widow has a baby and another on the way. Sucks.
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#3 2009-11-30 23:34:36
I'm having a hard time trying to picture his position or how he even got into that predicament; I've never been in a cave. What a fucking horrible mor[m]on. A lot of people are going to need therapy now (how fun for his rescuers) because he tried to stuff his big, stupid, Freudian self into a tiny little hole.
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#4 2009-11-30 23:49:52
Cherry Vanilla wrote:
he tried to stuff his big, stupid, Freudian self into a tiny little hole.
All guys do that.
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#5 2009-12-01 00:00:55
opsec wrote:
Cherry Vanilla wrote:
he tried to stuff his big, stupid, Freudian self into a tiny little hole.
All guys do that.
You know, sometimes a cave is just a cave.
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#6 2009-12-01 00:01:20
I've actually done this sort of stupid shit - we speluncked many of the endless caves on Okinawa. We were young, stupid and usually half-drunk, it took a very close call with the tide to wake us up.
I can't imagine that I would ever have done this after having a kid though...
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#7 2009-12-01 05:59:04
I did some spelunking when I was a kid. The last time I got stuck between two huge tapering slabs of rock, head down and at an impossible angle. I was stuck for maybe 90 minutes and went through periods of uncontrolled laughter and panic. I finally managed to back out, feet first, using a kind of working a peristaltic accordion process. I've preferred the open air since then.
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#8 2009-12-01 07:35:53
I have also been stuck a few times in worm holes and chimneys. It's great to explore. But at a certain point you start to realize that the dangers are real and the emergency procedures usually ad-hoc. I still love to be subterranean, but I stick to more published routes and go with people I trust in a pinch.
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#9 2009-12-01 08:28:20
Spelunking? No thanks.
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#10 2009-12-01 08:35:53
Fled wrote:
I did some spelunking when I was a kid. The last time I got stuck between two huge tapering slabs of rock, head down and at an impossible angle. I was stuck for maybe 90 minutes and went through periods of uncontrolled laughter and panic. I finally managed to back out, feet first, using a kind of working a peristaltic accordion process. I've preferred the open air since then.
I would have lost my mind, and it sounds like you did for awhile there. How does one wind up head down in these situations, anyway? That's what I'm having a hard time picturing. And when something truly disturbs me, like this did, I have a nasty compulsion to work it out in my head until I can figure out exactly what happened. I can't imagine "Oh, let me just stick my head in here so that I'm totally upside down."
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#11 2009-12-01 11:55:21
Cherry Vanilla wrote:
I would have lost my mind, and it sounds like you did for awhile there. How does one wind up head down in these situations, anyway? That's what I'm having a hard time picturing. And when something truly disturbs me, like this did, I have a nasty compulsion to work it out in my head until I can figure out exactly what happened. I can't imagine "Oh, let me just stick my head in here so that I'm totally upside down."
It was a long time ago, but I was quite a distance into the cave, farther than I had ever been before. There as a piece of rock separating the two slabs. I wormed my over it and looked down the other side as best I could. I thought I could stay high in the gap, where it appeared there was a little more space to work with, but after about 10 feet of inching along laterally, it seemed like it widened along a diagonal heading downward. Unfortunately, that did not last and it narrowed down again. We're talking about minor differences, but it proved to make the crucial difference. Once I started down, gravity worked on me and I sort of settled into the an area that was too narrow for me, not really straight up and down, but definitely pointed in a downward direction. (I still feel nausea when I recall the whole episode.)
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#12 2009-12-01 12:06:22
I just see no reason to be crawling around in tight confined caves. What do you think you're going to find down there? What are you exploring? Dark holes? I don't get it. Are you looking for buried treasure??? wtf??
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#13 2009-12-01 13:12:57
I know I'll never do it again.
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#14 2009-12-01 13:16:03
Roger_That wrote:
I just see no reason to be crawling around in tight confined caves. What do you think you're going to find down there? What are you exploring? Dark holes? I don't get it. Are you looking for buried treasure??? wtf??
Yeah, when will people learn that the dark holes just are not as fun as all the hype
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#15 2009-12-01 15:41:37
The reason he died is because his buddies decided to pray to Mormon Jesus first instead of calling 911 in a timely fashion.
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#16 2009-12-01 18:00:51
In Death Valley there are a number of covered up mines, they use that metal mesh stuff. Well BF and I were camping in Chloride City area and using an old metal pipe to twist the mesh around we broke into one. We walked in, making sure not to touch anything and just kinda check it out and to our right was this huge boulder literally being held up with a 2x4 and a small rock.
I couldn't imagine exploring anymore than that.
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#17 2009-12-01 18:20:44
Roger_That wrote:
Spelunking? No thanks.
Heh. I used to be in a relationship where spelunking was our code word for anal.
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#18 2009-12-01 19:12:39
phoQ wrote:
Roger_That wrote:
Spelunking? No thanks.
Heh. I used to be in a relationship where spelunking was our code word for anal.
Great, thanks for sharing.
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#19 2009-12-01 19:23:50
Roger_That wrote:
phoQ wrote:
Roger_That wrote:
Spelunking? No thanks.
Heh. I used to be in a relationship where spelunking was our code word for anal.
Great, thanks for sharing.
You know what people are gonna say about your sharing comment, right Wog?
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#20 2009-12-01 20:20:17
Spelunking? Been there and done that, in fact I learned to rock climb underground. However, as someone pointed out the dangers are very real. A minor accident on a rockface that would ruin your day and put you cast for six weeks could easily lead to death in a cave. All things considered I'm glad I went caving so much, and if I weren't old and fat I'd do it some more.
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#21 2009-12-01 20:24:08
The very thought of being trapped in a space like that makes my skin crawl. Honestly, I just don't have the stomach for it.
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#22 2009-12-01 21:19:01
This happened a few years ago, and has always bothered me:
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,51 … 41,00.html
One of the victims had a livejournal that made me like her, honestly (she was one of those who wanted to "change the world"):
http://jentle.livejournal.com/
memorial site to her: http://lejentle.com/
Four kids in their early 20's decide (not drunk or high), in the middle of the night, to go to terrifying chamber in a cave accessible only by underwater tunnel; one waits behind. And waits. And waits. And waits. And no one came out. I looked up stuff about this incident and found some now deleted posts about how scary this place really was, and I don't get it. I'd never consider myself too safe, but why kill yourself? They had to follow a rope attached to the cave ceiling underwater, and the chamber was tiny and breath-sucking once all 4 reached it. Then they had to make their way back out the way they came in, and when the silt is stirred up, you can't see shit...combine that with the freezing water...one of the girls got disoriented or stuck and blocked the exit for all of the rest of them. UGH GOD.
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#23 2009-12-01 21:24:08
Fled wrote:
Cherry Vanilla wrote:
I would have lost my mind, and it sounds like you did for awhile there. How does one wind up head down in these situations, anyway? That's what I'm having a hard time picturing. And when something truly disturbs me, like this did, I have a nasty compulsion to work it out in my head until I can figure out exactly what happened. I can't imagine "Oh, let me just stick my head in here so that I'm totally upside down."
It was a long time ago, but I was quite a distance into the cave, farther than I had ever been before. There as a piece of rock separating the two slabs. I wormed my over it and looked down the other side as best I could. I thought I could stay high in the gap, where it appeared there was a little more space to work with, but after about 10 feet of inching along laterally, it seemed like it widened along a diagonal heading downward. Unfortunately, that did not last and it narrowed down again. We're talking about minor differences, but it proved to make the crucial difference. Once I started down, gravity worked on me and I sort of settled into the an area that was too narrow for me, not really straight up and down, but definitely pointed in a downward direction. (I still feel nausea when I recall the whole episode.)
Were you completely alone? Jesus christ. GAH!
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#24 2009-12-01 21:40:05
I've never been claustrophobic but the sight of a tiny little cave mouth, and the thought of all that rock hanging above me, makes me sick to my stomach too.
I like caverns though. Caverns are cool. Stalactites and shit.
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#25 2009-12-01 21:58:39
George Orr wrote:
Stalactites and shit.
I pictured you muttering that and am probably way more amused than I should be.
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#26 2009-12-01 23:19:41
Nothing like being wedged between two unmovable surfaces for a little madness preview.
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#27 2009-12-01 23:22:24
It's about adventuring, it's hard to explain... kind of like climbing mountains or pity fucks.
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#28 2009-12-02 00:45:56
I used to do open face climbing. Nearly bought it in the process, but I enjoyed it. When I hit forty, I developed vertigo. That kinda ruins it.
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#29 2009-12-02 00:57:19
Dmtdust wrote:
I used to do open face climbing. Nearly bought it in the process, but I enjoyed it. When I hit forty, I developed vertigo. That kinda ruins it.
Stick with Pity Fucks...a lot more drama but requires less effort up until the romantic murder phase.
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#30 2009-12-02 01:01:42
Dmtdust wrote:
Nothing like being wedged between two unmovable surfaces for a little madness preview.
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#31 2009-12-02 06:24:35
Roger_That wrote:
I just see no reason to be crawling around in tight confined caves. What do you think you're going to find down there?
You never know. Kartchner caverns was ac-cidently dis-covered by a couple of amateur spelunkers. They had to crawl through a few hundred feet of mud to reach the cavern.
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#32 2009-12-02 09:57:47
Emmeran wrote:
It's about adventuring, it's hard to explain... kind of like climbing mountains or pity fucks.
I'm all for the last 2 (I rock climb a lot) but not so much the first. Hell, I'll even jump out of a plane. But no thank you on the caving shit.
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#33 2009-12-02 09:59:27
Decadence wrote:
Roger_That wrote:
I just see no reason to be crawling around in tight confined caves. What do you think you're going to find down there?
You never know. Kartchner caverns was ac-cidently dis-covered by a couple of amateur spelunkers. They had to crawl through a few hundred feet of mud to reach the cavern.
Still...not worth it.
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