It must gall you that Beck's popularity is skyrocketing, even more so after the competition organized a boycott of his sponsors.  Personally, I like his style and delivery.  I know it stings when he tells the truth, but there it is.  Conservatives are so fucking tired of the suck up pussies they sent to represent them that someone like Beck, who calls it as he sees it is refreshing.

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Taint wrote:

Say that again; it was adorable.

Define adorable.

phreddy wrote:

Taint wrote:

Phreddy, you're cute when you pretend to understand politics. Say that again; it was adorable.

OK.  It must gall the hell out of you too Taint.  The people are speaking.  It won't help to cover your ears.

Everything galls me, Phreddy. I'm a bleeding heart liberal, remember?

Well, I put it up as an art comment, and all I get is whinging from Phwedd.  Barbarians.

phreddy wrote:

It must gall you that Beck's popularity is skyrocketing, even more so after the competition organized a boycott of his sponsors.  Personally, I like his style and delivery.  I know it stings when he tells the truth, but there it is.  Conservatives are so fucking tired of the suck up pussies they sent to represent them that someone like Beck, who calls it as he sees it is refreshing.

Phreddy, if laughter is the best medicine, your political ideology is the cure for fucking cancer.

Oh wait... Phwedd, are you Mormon?  http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/ … index.html

Look, Obama is milk-toast compared to my background.  He leans to far to the right.  I would rather bash on the inherent wacky-ness that you seem to have gotten stuck on.  Did you read the article?  It is factual from what I read, not too much filler of the liberal kind.  Beck's spiritual mentor considered Eisenhower a communist.  Think about that, okay?  I am concerned that you'll be sucked down the drain of this shite because of your reactionary stance to all things centrist.  Generally speaking you are an okay guy but if you start spouting wacked ass shit I will see if we can get committal papers.  We loves you Phwedd, but I am concerned for you.

Dmtdust wrote:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-fringe14-2009sep14,0,5000500,full.story  If you are a conservative, fine enough.  But you should be intelligent enough not to hang out with the wingnut contingent.  Really, from what I have seen on youtube (no tv here) he is pretty interesting, but really, really WHINEY.  Not the type I thought you'd like.

Actually, I used to watch him on MSNBC before he went over to FOX.  His show is on too early for me to watch now.  But he is pretty entertaining and he doesn't hold back much.  I can't recall any whining, but I haven't watched that many of his shows.

Cherry Vanilla wrote:

phreddy wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-gop-fringe14-2009sep14,0,5000500,full.story  If you are a conservative, fine enough.  But you should be intelligent enough not to hang out with the wingnut contingent.  Really, from what I have seen on youtube (no tv here) he is pretty interesting, but really, really WHINEY.  Not the type I thought you'd like.

Actually, I used to watch him on MSNBC before he went over to FOX.  His show is on too early for me to watch now.  But he is pretty entertaining and he doesn't hold back much.  I can't recall any whining, but I haven't watched that many of his shows.

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-a … -operation

I think we just figured out the ailment that seems to have impaired poor Phreddy's judgement.

Phreddy is oddly quiet now.

Would one of the conservatives who enjoy Brother Beck's delivery and style please defend his disingenuosity?

in a dying medium. Enjoy!

phreddy wrote:

I'm not quiet.  I'm simply watching everyone here squirm at the thought that Fox News now draws a larger audience than CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and HLN all put together.  It's nice to be in the majority somewhere.

I'm not squirming, but you're not too far off.  It is a depressing comment on intelligence in America. 

Remember, Abba was wildly popular for a time, even though nobody with musical taste took them seriously.  From now on, I will think of Beck as the medium's Dancing Queen.

So he's stoking fear...neo-nazism at it's best.  Like Goebbel's he really doesn't care about the message only the reaction he get's - it's quickly obvious by his addictions to religions, booze etc that he is not a man with strong beliefs but rather a rabble-rouser who stumbled upon a moment.

The man is flat out revolting in what he'll say to increase his business.

phreddy wrote:

I'm not quiet.  I'm simply watching everyone here squirm at the thought that Fox News now draws a larger audience than CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, and HLN all put together.  It's nice to be in the majority somewhere.

I can dig that but, really Phreddy, do you necessarily want to be associated with people who pride themselves on their shortsightedness and lack of education?

phreddy wrote:

Taint, this is below you.  You must know that the liberal answer to any and all popular conservative movements and persons is the ad hominem attack.  Bush is stupid, Palin is ignorant, Fox News watchers are all racists and lack education.  On this board I have been called all sorts of vile names simply for disagreeing with liberals. This is the same tactic used by real racists when they deny the accomplishments of people of color.  "Stupid niggers" paves the way for discounting everything from motives to results.  Pretending to be superior, better educated, and better informed doesn't make it so.  It only provides justification for doing the wrong thing.  Obama and company have gone way over the top in so many ways that most Americans are now very concerned.  They gave him a pass on his lack of experience and past associations because they didn't like the Bush administration.  But now they are discovering that this is not the "change" they signed on for.  They gather at Fox only because all the other TV media are still providing cover for guy.  The shit is heading for the fan.

I didn't think Phwedd had it in him.

I'm not defending Beck here.  I am pointing out why people are watching him and other Fox shows.  I believe the more liberal press and broadcast media are ignoring a powerful phenomenon for political purposes.  And by doing so they are duping their viewers and readership.

Singalong with phreddy!

May be relevant. Village relig-iots.

"You can't rearrange the village for the villiage idiot(s)."

Rich.

Dmtdust wrote:

I love this comment:

The dumbing DOWN of the modern conservative movement . . .

Buckley
Goldwater
Nixon's Southern Strategy
Reagan (TALK)
Limbaugh (MORE talk)
Bush/Cheney
Palin
Beck

And 90+% of these dimwits continue to ask "What would Reagan/Limbaugh do?"

This is NOT the party of Lincoln, that's for sure.

Phweddski? Your thoughts?

So, you think that Goldwater and Nixon were smarter than Bush/Cheney and Beck?  Not sure of that myself.

By the way, here is more info on the New Jersey poll.  I went to the original poll results site.  People are really pissed off.  And that includes the sane ones as well as the whackos.

phreddy wrote:

Taint, this is below you.  You must know that the liberal answer to any and all popular conservative movements and persons is the ad hominem attack...

It goes both ways, Phreddy. I'm on enough right-wing mailing lists to see what's being promoted on that side, too. By the same token, I've never watched Rachel Maddow's show precisely because what I have seen in clips seems to be little more than preaching to the choir. Fox's news programming is just more of the same: it's designed to appeal to a narrow-minded, less educated group of people.

I have very few issues with honest-to-god, small "C" conservatives. I don't agree with them on most issues, but those I've known (either as friends or as people I've written about as a journalist) are intelligent, thoughtful individuals who have given me much to think about. Years ago, I moved to Alaska precisely because it was known as a place where those same conservatives held sway; I didn't necessarily embrace the thinking, but it was an approach I could live with. Unfortunately, that same year, the right-wing came to power in the same sweep that took the federal government, as well.

When the Republican Moderate party was founded in Alaska, I voted for it to support it (as well as to, hopefully, split the now reactionary, right-wing party that had taken control). Democrats were largely a non-entity by then and people like Palin and others far more reactionary than her, were running the show.

Intelligent, sophisticated conservatives have been shut out of the dialogue, Phreddy, even now. I stand by my original question: do you necessarily want to be associated with people who pride themselves on their shortsightedness and lack of education?

phreddy wrote:

By the way, here is more info on the New Jersey poll.  I went to the original poll results site.  People are really pissed off.  And that includes the sane ones as well as the whackos.

Interesting poll - the numbers show that (within the polls stated margin for error) the percentage of people who voted for Obama approve of the job he is doing and the percentage that voted for McCain do not approve of the job Obama is doing.

So his approval rating is actually very good for assuming the job in the middle of the largest economic collapse since the great depression.

I myself think its far to early to determine if he's doing a good job; it's hard to fully evaluate any employee in a complex job after less than a year - I'll with-hold my opinion until Jan 2010.

phreddy wrote:

Dmtdust wrote:

I love this comment:

The dumbing DOWN of the modern conservative movement . . .

Buckley
Goldwater
Nixon's Southern Strategy
Reagan (TALK)
Limbaugh (MORE talk)
Bush/Cheney
Palin
Beck

And 90+% of these dimwits continue to ask "What would Reagan/Limbaugh do?"

This is NOT the party of Lincoln, that's for sure.

Phweddski? Your thoughts?

So, you think that Goldwater and Nixon were smarter than Bush/Cheney and Beck?  Not sure of that myself.

By the way, here is more info on the New Jersey poll.  I went to the original poll results site.  People are really pissed off.  And that includes the sane ones as well as the whackos.

I think they were smarter in the fact that they appealed to a wider base.  I think Cheney is intelligent, but evil. Bush, well, his father aces him pretty much.  I found the elder Bush a breath of relief after the relentless shallowness of the previous tenant.  I found his machinations with Panama and The Gulf War to be piss poor policy, but I can gloss on the rest of his term.  I miss the thought processes of Buckley and some of the deeper thinkers on the American Right.  Not so much for the shite holes in the UK ala Thatcher/Blair as opposed to a John Major, Edward Heath, or  Harold Macmilan.  Truly, the Brits do conservative much better except the Witch and that bastard from New Labour.

The Making of Glenn Beck

phreddy wrote:

Cherry Vanilla wrote:

The Making of Glenn Beck

Well Glenn Beck may have a past that includes juvenile comedy, but conservatives haven't elected him to the U.S. Senate.

http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/upl … encin1.gif

Granted, he was a comedian.