Poll
| Nicotine | 20% - 3 | |||||
| Alcohol | 13% - 2 | |||||
| Marijuana | 40% - 6 | |||||
| Hallucinogens | 6% - 1 | |||||
| Depressants | 0% - 0 | |||||
| Amphetamines | 0% - 0 | |||||
| Opiates | 13% - 2 | |||||
| A God, Hobbes, Or Other Imaginary Emotional Pillow | 6% - 1 | |||||
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#1 2012-07-09 11:24:53
A new challenge to the "marijuana is the gate-way drug" pseudo-theory makes an appearance (Rest assured - We in the pharmaceutical and private prison industry shall silence this non-sense quickly enough; But, let us "play a-long" for the moment).
What was your "Gate-Way" drug? My friends and I started with tobacco. It was a one-time experiment (In which, two of our party vomited, and swore that they would never again touch this evil weed {Retro-Active Spoiler Alert: I was not one of those two}). With-In the year's end, three of us were hanging about the 7/11 (Never Forget) begging adults to purchase cigarettes and beer for us. Our tobacco success rate was not bad. We "came out a bit more poorly" on the beer end, but we all-ways had weed (Or, in tougher times hashish).
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#2 2012-07-09 13:10:33
Booze was my gateway. I got drunk for the first time when I was 11 and for the last time (until next time) last night.
Pot is my favorite substance in the world, I choose it when it is available and of high quality. I don't smoke seedy ditch weed. If that's all there is, I will stick with Absinthe or Kettle One with soda. I'm not a huge beer fan but a good hard cider is always a treat.
I like to wash it all down with a few packs of Camels or a good shisha.
If I am visiting a strip club, I gotta take some blow with me to share with the ladies.
Shrooms I can take or leave, they are ok but sometimes last a little longer than I want to be on the ride for.
I don't really do any man made street drugs.
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#3 2012-07-09 15:46:30
I started the ball rolling with a hit of acid when I was 8. It was the summer of love, and I lived on the beach - if the hippies were having a kool-aid party, it stood to reason that I should have some too. The waves I've ridden on acid have been spectacular, but after the trip is over my brain takes a long time to regain its familiar shape, so I've only done it 3 or 4 times, and may not do it again. Then there were the MDA years - they were fun and sensual, but tiring. In the days when extasy was really extasy, and not the speed-riddled party-drug it is now, I considered it a life-changing therapy that everyone should experience. Clinical grade X is the easiest way to become comfortable with oneself that I know of, and shouldn't even be part of this discussion. Tried many other things, but the one that stands out is peyote. For solid, vivid, sustained hallucinations, nothing beats a button. But this is Vancouver - button button, who's got the button? I don't. There was always pot around, but I didn't really start smoking until I was in my 20s. These days I make a quarter last two months while smoking a bit each day - as I tell my doctor-friend, it's my Paxil. Without it I get upset and start cutting people's feet off. As for coke, crack, meth, and all that sort of nasty shit, I've watched too many people, including a wife, destroy their brains and their lives. I don't care too much about life, but without my brain I'd have to make my living with my cock again, and I'm getting a little old to be standing on the street corner. Then there's alcohol - I hardly touched it until I was in my thirties. Now I have to limit myself to weekends or my work suffers. As for my next voyage of discovery - DMT. I believe I know someone who's making a batch right now.
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#4 2012-07-09 15:59:57
MJ has been my constant companion for most of my life. My Mom was a Long Island Hippie and her sister moved to Nova Scotia to grow full time. First time I ever got high (at about 10) was with my Grandma sitting on the back porch watching a sunset over the Chesapeake bay. But I never really smoked it very much (Except for a couple of binges in college) until a couple of years ago. My family connections dried up and I "graduated" from home-grown to hydro and it completely changed my perception of the drug. I also get more congested as I get older, so I moved from ratty joints and soapstone bowls to vapes and good water bongs. My consumption dropped off as well, though the dollars spent is probably about the same. I just wish I lived somewhere I could better control what strains I was buying as it kind of comes in hit or miss these days.
I smoked cigs for about a year and a half in college, then realized that I felt like shit and I was instantly poor, so I kicked that quick and have never gone back. But 30 years later I still chew the shit out of pens and pencils, a habit I picked up quitting cigs.
I'm also a beer and scotch snob. But those are always about quality over quantity. I homebrew and have over 25 gallons of beer on tap at any time, but probably drink less than a 6 pack every week or two. I like the kinds of scotch that I can't afford to drink regularly and that's just the way I like it. Tequillas are that way too.
I still miss the cheap, clean acid I got in college. I ask my dealer but he doesn't see it either, maybe some shrooms or ratty looking X, but no clean blotter. I'm trying to find some good stuff as I have promised my Mom I would take her on a trip some day when I found some that was worthy.
You forgot caffeine on your list. Or is that beneath you?
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#5 2012-07-09 16:17:18
GooberMcNutly wrote:
You forgot caffeine on your list. Or is that beneath you?
He forgot Jesus, too.
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#6 2012-07-09 17:35:29
Banjo wrote:
GooberMcNutly wrote:
You forgot caffeine on your list. Or is that beneath you?
He forgot Jesus, too.
Like coke, crack and meth, the Jesus-drug can be very hard on the brain. Defending the reality of an obvious mythology requires the rejection of logic and the depreciation of intellect. Religiosity is for the immature or senile mind. Perhaps Banjo is trolling, but in a previous thread he signed off by saying: "Picking and grinning for Christ" so it's anybody's guess. Perhaps we should have another poll: BANJO - Crafty Satirist or Christian Moran?
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#7 2012-07-09 19:26:20
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
In the days when extasy was really extasy, and not the speed-riddled party-drug it is now, I considered it a life-changing therapy that everyone should experience..
I have never had it under the name "ecstasy"; But, as I under-stand it, it is really just the MDMA which we had in the 70's. If that is the case, Methamphetamine was all-ways one of the main ingredients.
GooberMcNutly wrote:
You forgot caffeine on your list. Or is that beneath you?
A rather serious over-sight on my part in-deed as that and cheap tobacco are my two actual addictions. I will oft go weeks with-out whiskey or meth; But, with-drawal symptoms start in about forty minutes after my last cigarette or two days after my last cup of Kenyan bean (Stretched to four or five days if I have been "hitting the pipe").
GooberMcNutly wrote:
I like the kinds of scotch that I can't afford to drink regularly and that's just the way I like it.
Times being as extremely hard as they are these days, I have grown accustomed to the cheap shit (House Of Stuart - $15 + tax per half of a gallon); But, I so miss the days of GlenFiddich for break-fast.
Banjo wrote:
He forgot Jesus, too.
Yeah, I in-cluded Hobbes, and completely left off Calvin; But, that would, I believe, fall under the "Other Imaginary Emotional Pillow". Whilst I under-stand that you are certain of the emotional pillow's existence, I tend not to believe in the existence of any being until we have been thrown out of a bar together at four in the morning.
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#8 2012-07-09 19:59:44
Decadence wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
In the days when extasy was really extasy, and not the speed-riddled party-drug it is now, I considered it a life-changing therapy that everyone should experience..
I have never had it under the name "ecstasy"; But, as I under-stand it, it is really just the MDMA which we had in the 70's. If that is the case, Methamphetamine was all-ways one of the main ingredients.
Yes, MDMA is an amphetamine, but methamphetamine, or any other related molecule, has no place in MDMA. Using meth or any other cheaply-produced amphetamine to cut MDMA changes the drug into a speed trip, instead of a therapeutic experience. The MDMA I took in the '70s/'80s was accessed through a psychiatrist and was an experience primarily of mind (although the secondary, physical effect put one of my girlfriends in hospital with cystitis). I tried a hit of "X" recently and there was little similarity between it and the X I'd experienced before. The difference is almost certainly due to cutting with other amphetamines, and since almost no-one under 50 seems to know what a real MDMA trip feels like, people keep popping the damned things and never complain. I fear that real X is no longer available, maybe never was, unless you had the right connections.
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#9 2012-07-09 20:57:12
Well, I really don't have much to add to this, as fascinating as the discussion is.
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#10 2012-07-09 21:30:01
Dmtdust wrote:
Well, I really don't have much to add to this, as fascinating as the discussion is.
Do you have anything to add to this?
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#11 2012-07-09 23:49:21
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Banjo wrote:
GooberMcNutly wrote:
You forgot caffeine on your list. Or is that beneath you?
He forgot Jesus, too.
Like coke, crack and meth, the Jesus-drug can be very hard on the brain. Defending the reality of an obvious mythology requires the rejection of logic and the depreciation of intellect. Religiosity is for the immature or senile mind. Perhaps Banjo is trolling, but in a previous thread he signed off by saying: "Picking and grinning for Christ" so it's anybody's guess. Perhaps we should have another poll: BANJO - Crafty Satirist or Christian Moran?
Well, I suspect that fnord is really a 6' '7" heterosexual black feller that goes by the rap name "Coontang." That's why I don't tell any colored jokes around him. I guess we're all confused now.
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#12 2012-07-10 01:06:29
Banjo wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Banjo wrote:
He forgot Jesus, too.
Like coke, crack and meth, the Jesus-drug can be very hard on the brain. Defending the reality of an obvious mythology requires the rejection of logic and the depreciation of intellect. Religiosity is for the immature or senile mind. Perhaps Banjo is trolling, but in a previous thread he signed off by saying: "Picking and grinning for Christ" so it's anybody's guess. Perhaps we should have another poll: BANJO - Crafty Satirist or Christian Moran?
Well, I suspect that fnord is really a 6' '7" heterosexual black feller that goes by the rap name "Coontang." That's why I don't tell any colored jokes around him. I guess we're all confused now.
Okay, I have to fess up - that made me laugh. Since some asshole made this thread go off-colour anyways...and also because I"m pished on G&Ts (ever tried this? It's better than this, I might as well post a gif.
A Gateway Ass
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#13 2012-07-10 02:00:31
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
Dmtdust wrote:
Well, I really don't have much to add to this, as fascinating as the discussion is.
Do you have anything to add to this?
http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6s93 … o1_500.jpg
A gram of cocaine, a bottle of poppers, a bottle of absinthe, and about 16 hours?
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#14 2012-07-13 15:11:33
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
The MDMA I took in the '70s/'80s was accessed through a psychiatrist . . .
I acquired mine from Dave over on Nettle Tree Lane; But, all things considered, he behaved professionally enough (i.e. No "gun-play" was involved during our trans-actions). Whilst he was not a "licensed" phsyco-therapist, he did assist me in "working through" a few "mommy issues". But, we do not really speak of that night these days.
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#15 2012-07-13 17:02:33
Dmtdust wrote:
A gram of cocaine, a bottle of poppers, a bottle of absinthe, and about 16 hours?
Can I come over?
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#16 2012-07-14 04:30:40
Decadence wrote:
WilberCuntLicker wrote:
The MDMA I took in the '70s/'80s was accessed through a psychiatrist . . .
I acquired mine from Dave over on Nettle Tree Lane; But, all things considered, he behaved professionally enough (i.e. No "gun-play" was involved during our trans-actions). Whilst he was not a "licensed" phsyco-therapist, he did assist me in "working through" a few "mommy issues". But, we do not really speak of that night these days.
It sounds like a stretch. The sort of thing that makes a man cringe from the bottom on up. I hope he was gentle with you, it being your first time and all.
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